tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5472929943767602697.post6916102648041452370..comments2024-01-03T06:15:15.919-05:00Comments on Everyone Is a Sith: Obama Will Give Convention Speech At StadiumUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5472929943767602697.post-37947438523004024172008-07-08T09:22:00.000-04:002008-07-08T09:22:00.000-04:00I know I would not have voted in the primary were ...I know I would not have voted in the primary were it the case that the nominee had already been decided, as it had on the Republican side.<BR/><BR/>If you notice, only 400,000 showed up to the Republican primary in a decidedly Republican state. Sure I can't prove it to be the case that more people voted in the Democratic primary because the race was still in contention and their vote mattered, but the trends do support my theory.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13095451400961707644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5472929943767602697.post-35027400483655124202008-07-07T16:27:00.000-04:002008-07-07T16:27:00.000-04:00"The reason so many more showed up to vote in Indi..."<I>The reason so many more showed up to vote in Indiana for the primary is because for the first time in a very long time, our primary votes actually mattered.</I>"<BR/><BR/>I don't think we can do that...assume a reason onto an action and say that over a million people showed up because X. Certainly at least one showed up because its vote "actually mattered". But that wasn't everyone's reason. I voted because <I>Obama</I>.<BR/><BR/>I'm somewhat interested in how many people are available for the fold. There are the people aware of the process, the "I'm tired of hussein" ladies, and then...who is left? What brand of ignorant, estranged, uninvolved shithead are we talking about?<BR/><BR/>And why would they start caring at the convention but not before?<BR/><BR/>It's all very odd. And I'm not saying that people won't be swayed by the convention speech. But i'm wondering who they are, where they live, and where their off switch is._J_https://www.blogger.com/profile/03761591852824457348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5472929943767602697.post-73038730979779668192008-07-07T14:01:00.000-04:002008-07-07T14:01:00.000-04:00The reason so many more showed up to vote in India...The reason so many more showed up to vote in Indiana for the primary is because for the first time in a very long time, our primary votes actually mattered. In 2000, by the time the Indiana primary rolled around Gore was already working on his presidential campaign. This year, however, there was a legitimate contest between the two candidates and Indiana's primary votes actually counted.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13095451400961707644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5472929943767602697.post-61862379803825863492008-07-07T13:28:00.000-04:002008-07-07T13:28:00.000-04:00exactly,and a spectral like Obama and Dean are pla...exactly,<BR/>and a spectral like Obama and Dean are planning, if it works, ought to go a long way to bring people into the fold. also, 1,000,000 people is only like .5% of the total population of the US. and 15% of indiana's population.Mike Lewishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13871170150315051078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5472929943767602697.post-80266016870541878952008-07-07T11:46:00.000-04:002008-07-07T11:46:00.000-04:00"Historically, the nominating conventions are they..."<I>Historically, the nominating conventions are they first time people who are not obsessive wonks really begin to actively pay attention.</I>"<BR/><BR/>Lots of people have said this. Chuck Todd has said this. But I'm wondering how relevant it is now.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.thegreenpapers.com/PCC/Tabul.html" REL="nofollow">2000 Primary Statistics</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/" REL="nofollow">2008 Primary Statistics</A><BR/><BR/>Indiana Primary:<BR/>2000: 699,836 voted<BR/>2008: 1,690,987 voted<BR/><BR/>That trend is not unique to Indiana.<BR/><BR/>So after one compares 2000 to 2008 in terms of primary participation and exclaims "Jesus Jackrabbit Fuck!" I'm very interested in why they would still see the Conventions as meaninful entry points in the process when a fuck-ton of people are already engaged._J_https://www.blogger.com/profile/03761591852824457348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5472929943767602697.post-34001406056849154502008-07-07T11:27:00.000-04:002008-07-07T11:27:00.000-04:00I am not making a value judgment. It is a stateme...I am not making a value judgment. It is a statement of fact. Only 65 million Americans have cable television. Which is about 20% of the population. <BR/><BR/>lots of people have seen him on the evening news on television or read about him in the news paper. But none of the broadcast networks have shown complete unedited speeches. <BR/><BR/>Historically, the nominating conventions are they first time people who are not obsessive wonks really begin to actively pay attention.Mike Lewishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13871170150315051078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5472929943767602697.post-84919204860453780952008-07-07T10:05:00.000-04:002008-07-07T10:05:00.000-04:00"This will be the first time a lot of people will ..."<I>This will be the first time a lot of people will get a chance to see Obama give a major speech</I>"<BR/><BR/>People existing within the world in which we live had numerous opportunities to see Obama give a major speech. This is not a "first chance" so much as it is yet another opportunity.<BR/><BR/>Not only have Obama speeches been covered by the 24 hour news networks but those same networks, as well as many others, have made the video available online. <I>Everyone</I> (except maybe that one inbreeding Ozark family) has access to the internet be it through their local library, school, or recreational room in their particular penitentiary of residence.<BR/><BR/>So that whole "first opportunity" malarkey is really just a polite way of saying "ignorant dipshits who hate information will finally have it thrust in their face".<BR/><BR/>I also think it is quite interesting that Obama can fill a stadium, McCain barely fills exhibit halls, and they're only polling within 5 points of one another._J_https://www.blogger.com/profile/03761591852824457348noreply@blogger.com