Thursday, March 11, 2010

Andrew Breitbart and Magic: The Gathering

Shit like this is why we can never have normal conversations with people:

[17:28] Courfeyac: http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/03/ff_andrew_brietbart/all/1
[17:28] Courfeyac: read. rage.
[17:29] Courfeyac: both at the douchery and at the skill with which the douche turns important things into a game.
[17:29] _J_: That man gets it
[17:31] Courfeyac: Christ. that's the thing. GETTING it? Is all about throwing "agreed upon conventions" to the wind. Like Cary drafting Unglued.
[17:32] Courfeyac: I mean, you're right.. and yet, it's the brazen willingness to drop, discredit, or devalue things we expect and hold of value in journalism.
[17:32] _J_: I admire people who can play systems against their selves
[17:32] Courfeyac: I admire the skill. But I don't admire people who do it shortsightedly, people who don't have an understanding of where their actions will take them.
[17:33] Courfeyac: Which is Breitbart to a T.
[17:33] Courfeyac: Fucker is playing the short game, in the name of glory and immediate points, and has no clue about his goals.
[17:33] Courfeyac: or any self-examination, honestly.
[17:34] _J_: true
[17:34] _J_: but perhaps his goals are only for the short term
[17:34] Courfeyac: that's what kills me. And to be fair, it kills you, too.
[17:34] _J_: of course, everyone needs an endgame
[17:34] _J_: but maybe his is to go hide on an island somewhere when it all blows up
[17:35] Courfeyac: When you put together a deck that abuses something like Mindslaver... and does it well.. only to get screwed by a deck Kyle or Cary just threw together that HAPPENS to have your killer in it. some random card that silverbullets it....
[17:35] _J_: Right
[17:35] _J_: We exploit the rules of a system so that, if we value the system, the system can be enhanced
[17:35] Courfeyac: you seethe. Not because you were stopped by the player.. but becuase it wasn't PLAYED, it was kismet, happenstance.
[17:35] _J_: which is why we play Dragons at T1 doubles
[17:35] _J_: to get worldgorger banned
[17:35] Courfeyac: ... Bingo.
[17:36] Courfeyac: And you weren't at all pissed when you got screwed by Kismet, even though it ruined you, because you didn't even know aobut it.
[17:36] _J_: We try to be the people who find the holes in the systems which matter
[17:36] _J_: Right
[17:36] _J_: Kismet is something which existed in the system which maintained the integrity of the system
[17:36] _J_: Just not enough people play it
[17:36] Courfeyac: it had a point in his game, and you were simply unprepared. Thing is.. Breitbart's playing a totally different game.
[17:36] _J_: ah
[17:37] Courfeyac: He's playing say, Type 2 competitive, without having any clue how his success will warp the format.
[17:37] _J_: So he's abusing skullclamp not for the sake of demonstrating the flaw in skullclamp, but to win?
[17:39] Courfeyac: but to win is a good argument.. but I'd go further, and say he's the kinda guy who doesn't see how it's bad for the format. So he'll bitch about it when it's banned, and further, assume his winnings were his skill and intellegence, not the sheer power of the 'clamp
[17:39] Courfeyac: He'll do that in part to distract others from looking at his other broken bits, like the rest of Affinity.
[17:39] _J_: So, he's abusing skullclamp, without any mind for what will happen when skullclamp is removed?
[17:39] Courfeyac: but also becuase he honestly belives they're cutting it to cut HIM.
[17:40] Courfeyac: Sounds right.

5 comments:

Mike Lewis said...

/blink

Roscoe said...

What can I say? I go back to the one constant I have in trying to make clear examples, when talking to J.

Caleb said...

Take a look at the timestamps. Either J had already read the article, he skimmed it while talking to Roscoe, or just made things up as he went along.

Roscoe said...

Caleb, don't you know that's just Time Traveller interference?

Clearly, we were having Discussions of MIGHTY IMPORT, and J's enemies can't allow that to go unchecked.

_J_ said...

Time Travelers.