On What Constitutes RickRolling
[16:06] Courfeyac: Man. You can't rick roll to save your own skin.
[16:06] Darthbert: I just did.
[16:06] Courfeyac: Posting to a youtube video of Rick Astley is not rickrolling.
[16:07] Courfeyac: if that shit don't bounce around the screen, and quote lyrics at you when you try to close it, it's not a Rick Roll.
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Rickrolling is a prank and Internet meme involving the music video for the 1987 Rick Astley song "Never Gonna Give You Up". The meme is a classic bait and switch: a person provides a Web link they claim is relevant to the topic at hand, but the link actually takes the user to the Astley video.Now we have documented, for the records, Roscoe's predilection for fabricating his own criteria by which a phenomena is to be assessed which contradicts the established, accepted method of identification.
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friday during mr. happy pants Jonathan Coulton rickrolled himself.
that is to day, Ros is wrong
Did you go to a Jonathan Coulton concert?
A rickroll is only a rickroll if the intended victim actually clicks the link and is surprised to see Rick Astley. Was this the case?
Simply linking the video is not rickrolling. The intended victim must unintentionally see a the video with no prior knowledge that this was about to happen.
Well, maybe SUCCESSFUL rickrolling needs clicks and surprise, but the losing team still played baseball, and I'd say that the unclicked link is still on the rickroll.
But who needs to rickroll anyway? There are plenty of other things to do on the internet
Hang the hell on. Will someone please dig up the Smouch.net/lol?
The original Rick Roll?
Because, I for one, am an originalist here.
I'll accept voting at a sports park to have "Never Gonna Give You Up" played during the 7th Inning Stretch as a Rick Roll, but just linking to Youtube?
That shit's weaker than a LeBouff SNL skit.
The Original
Don't click at work, philistines.
"a person provides a Web link they claim is relevant to the topic at hand, but the link actually takes the user to the Astley video."
That is Rickrolling. One provides a link under the guise of something other than a link to "Never Gonna Give you up", as I did here.
I do not think that we can include expectation or surprise in a definition given that these cannot be quantified or easily assessed. If the primary focus on defining a Rickroll is "surprised to see Rick Astley" then it would be impossible to Rickroll on 4chan or Penny Arcade; it simply occurs too frequently for it to be at all surprising.
If the link provided sends a user to "Never Gonna Give You Up" yet the link itself claimed to direct somewhere else then that is a Rickroll.
Objection!
Rick-rolling is, by definition, a prank. Pranks by definition, must be unexpected, else they cease to be a prank.
Q.E.D.
Failing the expectation clause transforms a Rick-Roll into a failed Rick-Roll, just as blowing the surprise on your prank makes it fail.
The Rick-roll includes the experience, and I call shenannigans on Wiki support here.
Using Wiki in place of the actual experience has, as always been shown, fails to replace the actual event.
Wow, that's stupid.
So, you're saying a Rick Roll exists independent of the experience?
That a mistitled link is a Rick Roll, even if it only remains on a local computer, and is never utilized?
To that I call bullshit, and point out that the term is a verb. To Rick Roll, or to be Rick Rolled.
It has to be experienced. You rick roll someone, not some link.
"So, you're saying a Rick Roll exists independent of the experience?
That a mistitled link is a Rick Roll, even if it only remains on a local computer, and is never utilized?"
A Rickroll is a link to "Never Gonna Give You Up" under the guise of a link to something else.
The word "rickroll" can be used as a verb to indicate one posting the link or one following the link.
But the link itself? The noun? That is also "rickroll".
If your argument is that the thing cannot exist independent of the experience then...see Modern philosophy.
A prank cannot exist without an intended target, though.
A Rickroll must be AIMED at someone.
Further, a prank, unless there's a Schrodinger's Prank effect, needs to be successful to be a prank.. elsewise, it's a failed prank..
I'm not saying it can't exist independent of the experience, I'm saying without the experience, it's something different, and NOT an example of being rickroll'd.
And a plain YouTube link, with out some sort of anticipation behind it? Is just that. A failed prank.
If you throw out a blind link, without any build up, without any expectations being left unmet, then you're not rickrolling anyone.
You've brought a term into the discussion "prank" which has its own connotations and meaning. I do not think that it applies to "Rickrolling" in that "rickrolling" can be assessed on its own independent of the baggage incurred by including "prank" in the discussion.
"A Rickroll must be AIMED at someone."
That on its own is not true. If I post a link which says "Eevee fucks Bulbasaur" on 4chan and that link goes to "Never Gonna Give You Up"? I am not aiming that link at any particular person.
Now, maybe you do not mean "someone" in the particular sense and rather are saying that it must be aimed at a group of people, or some idea of a group of people, or something.
As far as I can tell if you post a link that says "Obama's victory speech" and that link goes to Never Gonna Give You Up? That is a Rickroll.
And anything else fabricated requirement is just that: A fabricated, baseless requirement.
Sir, you brought it into discussion, by your appeal to Wiki.
from the VERY post you quote-
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Screenshot of a Rick Roll video window on YouTube.Rickrolling is a prank and Internet meme involving the music video for the 1987 Rick Astley song "Never Gonna Give You Up". The meme is a classic bait and switch: a person provides a Web link they claim is relevant to the topic at hand, but the link actually takes the user to the Astley video. The URL can be masked or obfuscated in some manner so that the user cannot determine the true source of the link without clicking (and thus satisfying their curiosity). By extension, it can also mean playing the song loudly in public in order to be disruptive.[1] A person who falls for the prank is said to have been "Rickrolled"."
First sentence, Sir.
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