Saturday, June 7, 2008

Delegate [chat]

We'll update delegate math here as it happens. Then you can [chat] about it.
As of 6/5/08 @ 11:38 a.m.:

ObamaClinton
Pledge
Super
Edwards
Total
1744
403.5
21
2168
1641
291
0
1932

86 comments:

_J_ said...

Here is my summary of Code Geass:

"Alright, then! Let's celebrate the catching of the cat!"

_J_ said...

My Math beats Clinton Math

Mike Lewis said...

There is a trailer out for the new documentary about Hunter S. Thompson.

_J_ said...

Hook was on Cartoon Network yesterday afternoon.

That guy who plays Rufio? He is apparently not that asian looking guy from Linkin Park but rather is a voice actor for Disney and Cartoon Network.

Which may explain why the fuck HOOK was on CARTOON network.

_J_ said...

While the Huffington Post does not offer anything of quality it does, on occasion, offer some lol.

If you fucking hate Terry McAuliffe you will enjoy the link.

Roscoe said...

Liar. He's Linkin Park's vocalist. under a Psdeuonym. He's a voice actor under another one.

He's really Rufio.

_J_ said...

Dude, Rufio died.

Unknown said...

Hook is just a shameless attempt by Cartoon Network to draw in the pathetic recapture your lost childhood crowd of their target audience. This is nothing new to CN, if you recall they also have aired Saved by the Bell. I wouldn't be surprised if they start airing the teenage mutant ninja turtles movies or something along those lines again.

Unknown said...

Rufio != Mr. Han
Rufio != Chester Bennington
Rufio == awesome

Unknown said...

Oh and Mike Shinoda is not the asian looking guy from Linkin Park. It is true he has some Japanese blood in him, but it really isn't that dominant in him. The asian guy you are looking for is Joe Han, aka Mr. Han.

_J_ said...

Um, Kyle? They did show the Live Action Turtle movies...

And Batman.

_J_ said...

I don't think Mr. Han is the asiany person. I'm thinking of the guy who "raps" and by "raps" I mean "sucks".

Roscoe said...

But, _j_! He tried to bring you warning, but you just ignored him....

Unknown said...

See I don't really watch CN anymore so I don't know these things. And I'll be honest if it weren't for his name, I would have never guessed that Mike Shinoda had japanese lineage. Rufio, however, has obvious asian lineage.

_J_ said...

I do not understand the Racial structure of Neverland enough to know whether or not "asian" is applicable to Rufio. Maybe he's just Neverlandian? Or are all of the inhabitants of Neverland from realities in which race exist? Is Rufio originally from Asia? Or is there a Neverland version of Asia?

I ask these questions yet would also like to fully acknowledge that I really do not want to know their answers. Because I'm fine never knowing how Neverland was populated.

Unknown said...

the lost boys of neverland are populated by children who ran away from home anywhere on earth, looking to never grow up...

_J_ said...

And they all speak english?

Unknown said...

obviously... English is the language of choice of runaway children who want to never grow up.

Unknown said...

On a side note, will we as a race ever understand the difference between ironically and coincidentally?

_J_ said...

"On a side note, will we as a race ever understand the difference between ironically and coincidentally?"

No. No we will not.

Because it's so confusing, you see.

_J_ said...

This is win.

And Nightcrawler is the greatest character ever.

BAMF!

Roscoe said...

NO one wants to play Cyclops.

That means you, Ben Cassiday.

_J_ said...

I really don't like Ben Cassiday.

"Oh, I leveled! Let me go level up!"

"Oh, I leveled! Let me go level up!"

"oh boy! More points in the shitty level one skill!"

What a fucking moron.

Roscoe said...

The Boy Would. NOT. LEARN. HIMSELF.

After I point blank spelled it out for him. In tiny words. With Charts AND Graphs.

And it pains me to admit I'm not exaggerating this at all.

Not even by a barn, let alone a slightly bigger barn. I made myself some damned MSPaint graphs. To Point At.

Becuase that's the only tool that I had left. Good Old Pointing.

Even it failed me.

_J_ said...

You know what would make sense? If he was not concerned with maximizing his character and rather was focused upon building a character he wanted to play despite its ineffective nature. That would at least be coherent.

But he wasn't doing that!

He honestly believed that putting all of his skill points into the first available skill was the way to maximize his character.

At least he was playing Cyclops, though, so it was not as if...

Wait a minute...

That's it!!

Cyclops is a fucking ineffective douche!! So when Ben Cassiday played Cyclops not only did he make the character an ineffective douche but also he, himself, Ben Cassiday, played as an ineffective douche!!

He was role playing!

Brilliant!!

Roscoe said...

You are not allowed to sully the good names of such suffixes as Meta- and Post- by attaching them to Ben's Cyclops debacle.

I won't allow it. Those are pristine suffixes, valuable tools in the War on Mikey's Mind. I won't give them up or see them devalued.

_J_ said...

Clinton needs 198 delegates to get the nomination. There are 185 undeclared super delegates as of right now.

So, Clinton needs 100% of the undeclared super delegates and 13 from tonight's primaries.

_J_ said...

Clinton open to being Obama's Vice President.

That's a trap.

Roscoe said...

I may have just developed my FNM Deck and stumbled upon a deck I later want to build.

right now, though..

I've a rough build of a fast-ish aggro deck.

I need thoughts, though.
---------
21 land
- Manland Red? (2{kinda 3} to activate)

8 Accel
4 Rite of Flame (1)
4 Mindstones (1)

15+ Spells
3 Thrumming Stones (5)
4 Browbeat (2)
4 Threaten (3)
4 Incinerate, Surging Flame (2)
-4 Xburn? Blaze of Destruction? (X)

16+ Creatures
4 Intimidator Initiate (2)
4 Suq'Ata Lancer (3)
4 Prodigal Pyromancer (3)
4 Bogardan Lancer or Firefiend (2) or (3)
-Spark Elemental? (1)
-Lavaborn Muse? (4)

Curve is thus
8 1m, 12-16 2m, 8-12 3m, 3 5m

_J_ said...

It would be really white of you to make those card names links to the card image so that, you know, we know what the fuck you're talking about.

Roscoe said...

Why? You make due in person, without links.

Why should the Internet be any different?

That's just stupid wishful thinking, isn't it?

_J_ said...

Yes, Sir.

Sorry, Sir.

_J_ said...

How does thrumming stone interract with X cost spells?

Roscoe said...

Smartest way is to Fail to Find them. Unless you want to cast a X = 0 spell, for Storm or so.

This is assuming an averge "X is defined by casting cost" spell... HRMn... though.... it MIGHT work out with cost-reduction effects.

THAT needs a bit more work to look at.

_J_ said...

It's just a question of how Thrumming stone works with the "play" effect.

If you play an X spell for free then X is 0. If you pay to play it, then, you have to pay the full cost.

That's as I understand it. I think when Isochron Scepter came out the ruling was that one could put an X1 or X2 card on it, but X was always 0.

Unknown said...

as far as I know you are correct in that X=0 is always the case if an X spell is not played directly by the player.

Unknown said...

Also for anyone that gives a damn, Teenie and I have decided to build a house

_J_ said...

Seems to be fairly zombie resistant...not too many windows.

But it needs a basement.

Also, a moat.

Roscoe said...

Yeah, in this case you're right.

I'm thinking of the interaction of Cost Reducers and Alternate Methods of Play.

such as those Bannerets and Prowl.

Turns out they reduce the Prowl cost.

_J_ said...

Why are the Thrumming Stones in the deck?

I understand Thrumming Stones with Relentless Rats. Other than that it's just a 5 mana Legendary artifact that might possibly maybe let you play a spell for free sometime.

Though, admittedly, I don't know what Standard looks like anymore.

Unknown said...

Basements are hella expensive, so we are passing on that for now.

_J_ said...

Tornadoes?

_J_ said...

Jack Thompson doesn't need your Bar Association. Jack Thompson will start his own Bar Association.

_J_ said...

Out of curiosity, how expensive are basements?

A hole in the ground can't cost that much.

Roscoe said...

I was just talking about the Jacky T thing before I hit the thread agian..

it's WONDERFUL

_J_ said...

"English is the greatest of all languages. It allows its users to be very precise. Any rational person conversant in English understands, upon reading Rule 3-7.6, that the document containing findings of guilt must also contain “findings of fact” as to what I am guilty of."

I heart Jack Thompson.

Only he would start a sentence with "Any rational person conversant in English" and end that sentence with "of".

_J_ said...

"I am also to be punished, you have concluded, for going on 60 Minutes and warning the American people, like Paul Revere, that, inspired by video games, “the murders are coming.” And they have come."

I am beset by a fit of the giggles!

Unknown said...

A) a basement for this house will cost around $20k and to finish it will be another $15k

B) tornadoes cut such a narrow path, if I get hit by one, then it is just my time to go.

_J_ said...

twenty thousand dollars to dig a hole?

...

I need to rethink my life.

Roscoe said...

Even better is the paragraph before that, where Thompson sets up a comparison with neither, but only offers one element of comparison.

Roscoe said...

Any word on those Browbeats, J?

Because, now I'm confused and furious with myself, certain I had some or at least used some..

but I have no clue in what deck, or what might have happened to them.

_J_ said...

Didn't have a chance to look last night. I was busy helping my guild get its ass kicked by a boss we've killed 7 times already.

Damned noobs.

Roscoe said...

understood... give me a yell tonight when you get a chance... I almost wonder if I didn't just borrow them for a tournament..

Beucase.. I remember using them for a tournament deck..but I have NO clue beyond that what I used them for. and that would explain why I remember them so hard, but don't have them.

They're rare, yes? originally?

Roscoe said...

In other news...

My supervisor here at work?

Lives in E.E. Doc Smith's old summer home.

little bit of nerd ephemera.

_J_ said...

Hate placecards.

_J_ said...

It sure is awesome that all these trees had to die so that at my boss's daughter's wedding everyone could have their own widdle menu. That's fucking terrific.

I mean, how the fuck are people going to know what they're eating unless they have a widdle fucking menu next to their widdle fucking nametag? You have to think through these things. You have to plan ahead.

"We're going to serve them food...but...but how will they know what they are eating when they eat it?"

I knows! Widdle fucking menus next to their widdle fucking nametags!

Wait, though...How will guest know what their names are?!?!

OH NOES!

Unknown said...

Can we just agree that extravagant weddings are of no value to anyone and should be abolished?

sure, it is a rite of passage, but do we really need everyone we have ever met to be there, and do we really need to micromanage every bit of it?

do you know what else is a rite of passage? losing one's virginity. Maybe we should throw extravagant parties for that event! with slide shows and name tags and place cards! It will be great.

Roscoe said...

Kyle, you really shouldn't be so trashed on Sierra Mist at work, man.

besides.. without extravagant weddings, we have no excuse to oilskate.

_J_ said...

I spent the afternoon cutting out 180 widdle menus and learned that when it comes to using a paper cutter my skill level firmly resides at "re re".

@kyle: A party for losing one's virginity? I think that is somewhat unrealistic.

Now, a mailing? That is both tasteful AND expedient.

Failing that one ought to at least live blog it.

Roscoe said...

Man, that's going to lead to a truly awkward Walk of Shame.

_J_ said...

Not necessarily. It depends on the quality of the journalism.

Roscoe said...

... You do fathom that there better journalism leads to MORE awkward walks?

Only editorialism MIGHT save it.. or make it EPICALLY awkward.

Or is that your point, sir?

Awkpawkawlypse?

Roscoe said...

Has anyone announced to the TEEV that there be a GH3 Tourney in town?

_J_ said...

Is that tournament this weekend or next month?

Roscoe said...

Next Month

Roscoe said...

Tonight is the FNM

_J_ said...

You know what would make FNM better?

If it were Type One.
With Blackjack.
And Hookers.

Caleb said...

Link

Link

Roscoe said...

No good can come from that..

well.. maybe the Eurydice thing. but... .. no.. not really...

No. Good. I say.

Roscoe said...

Unless it's really a tribute to Kitty Pride.

goddamn whedon.

_J_ said...

"Aristotle. Nietzsche. Buffy? The blonde heroine of the campy television series "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," as well as other works by director and writer Josh Whedon, will be the focus of a three-day academic conference held at Henderson State University beginning Friday.

You know what I hate? Academic Conferences focused upon popular culture. Talk about bottom-feeding faux-academic assholes.

Holy shit! You mean to tell me that Whedon ripped off the Allegory of the cave?! Well shits! Instead of just writing about the Allegory of the cave let's talk about Buffy!

Cunt gargling asshole reamers, batman! Buffy has feminist undertones! Well, let's not read The Feminine Mystique! Let's just talk about Buffy and draw vague lines of comparison.

Descartes? FUCK DESCARTES! Let's just make intro students watch The Matrix. Let's abandon any hope that an individual could grasp the primary source and maintain a true and genuine understanding of an author and rather wallow about with our middling, sophmoric "understanding by association" half-assed faux academic tedium in an effort to gain popularity by association.

"These are important thinkers, and understanding them can be very useful and it's not ever going to happen at a four-hour seminar. When the President's got an embassy surrounded in Haiti, or a keyhole photograph of a heavy water reactor, or any of the fifty life-and-death matters that walk across his desk every day... I don't know if he's thinking about Immanuel Kant or not. I doubt it, but if he does, I am comforted in my certainty that he is doing his best to reach for all of it and not just the McNuggets."

Middling, pissant, fucking CHILDREN.

Sorry, Mike.

Roscoe said...

Man, you know what I LOVE?

your ability to prejudge without context.

I'm taking it as bedrock assumption, admitedly, but if these people are discussing these issues, then I have to assume they've fully read the material in question, in each case, and are using the Whedon medium to re-examine the original material.


Mind You, I'm allready on record as saying this will be a terrible event. I'm just always in awe of your ability to go into the red-zone on the pessimism meter with nothing more than a sliver of information and your own assumptions.

_J_ said...

"your ability to prejudge without context."

We have to play to our strengths.

Do you know how many "Philosophy and ____" bullshit books there are? TOO MANY.

Philosophy and The Matrix, Philosophy and The Simpsons, The Undead and Philosophy. Bullshit, bullshit, crap.

For my Buffy the Vampire Independent Study I read a few of those buffy philosophy books (Fear and Trembling in Sunnydale, What would Buffy do?). And you know what they are? CRAP!

They either provide yet another example for philosophies which already provide examples (Buffy as ubermensch LAWL) or they draw needless lines of comparison (I cans find Plato in Storyteller!).

There is no academic utility to them; it's just people trying to make money or level up their published works count. And they aren't even good papers!

Nietzsche describes the ubermensch as X. Buffy exhibits X. Therefore Buffy is an ubermensch. I CANZ FILOSOFIZE!

It's the Crayola version of Academia.

And it can die in a fucking fire.

_J_ said...

Yesterday I learned that I cannot use a paper cutter. Today I've discovered that I cannot fold along perforations.

I don't think I can ever be a secretary. :(

_J_ said...

God damn these fucking things!

These little nametag things have a raised border about 1/8th of an inch from the perforation. So when I try to bend it at the perforation it ends up bending at the raised edge.

Why must folding cardstock be so difficult?~!

Roscoe said...

And with that? No problem

I know full well those books blow. As do the various Science of X books and the Technical Manuals and Etc.

They're the Official Marvel Handbooks of the Barnes and Noble set.

Roscoe said...

I like how we can be civil and jovial in this thread, and knives out in the other.

It makes me feel like baking pastries and handing them out.

Benevolence for everyone!

... In this strictly defined "Freely Granted Good Will Zone"

_J_ said...

I want my army of nametags to gain sentience so that I can march them to their doom.

First the server room. Then the drill press! We'll engage shipping on the 'morrow!

_J_ said...

I just folded Rod Yoder's nametag.

I fucking hated his physics class.

"I'm going to give you a list of formula and you just assume that they are meaningful and representative of something. Because even though I can't make this fucking dry cough stop I'm certainly capable of wresting from the fabric of reality the very mathematical formula by which these processes occur!"

How am I to believe your hubris if you can't even buy a pack of fucking Ludens?

Roscoe said...

Scorn them into sentience!

WILL IT TO BE!

Focus your disdain, magus!

_J_ said...

I has browbeats with me.

Roscoe said...

Great.. I was trying to get around to asking you that and got tied up in the dipshit's thing/copy-pasting in Excel

you want me to try and swing by your place, or are you going to stop in at Nick's?

_J_ said...

I get off work at 5. I can probably go to Nick's after work. When will you be there?

Though, if you aren't there I can probably just hand them to Nick and tell him to give them to you.

Roscoe said...

roughly the same. i'll get off at 4:30, head home and then in almost immediately.

_J_ said...

People brought their Golden Retriever into the office.

I want Golden Retriever.

Unknown said...

So it is official. We are building that house I liked earlier here.

Google hasn't updated their maps yet so the road doesn't really exist according to them, and the entire division doesn't exist according to their satellite maps, but I assure you this is where our house will be located. And it will be sweet. I will keep you updated as the process continues. Projected closing date is in October.